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The Not 4 Prophets Podcast is the place where two seasoned, Black non-profit professionals spill the tea on what really goes on behind closed doors in the nonprofit industry and how it impacts Black leaders and leaders of color. We’ll share our personal experience, industry trends and tools and strategies for navigating the world of non-profit leadership as Black professionals.
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Monday May 19, 2025
DEI Leadership in Crisis: What’s Next for Black Leaders?
Monday May 19, 2025
Monday May 19, 2025
The DEI wave that surged in 2020 is crashing, and once again, Black professionals are the first to pay the price. From layoffs and sidelining to performative accountability and shrinking budgets, many are left wondering: What now?
In this episode, we’re talking about the DEI backlash and what it means for those who've built careers, movements, and entire identities around the pursuit of equity in the workplace.
We ask:
- How has this DEI unraveling shown up personally and professionally?
- What happens when the rug is pulled out from under your leadership?
- What does meaningful equity work look like now, especially outside of formal DEI titles?
- And most importantly: What new power centers can we create, lead, and own?
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