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The Not 4 Prophets Podcast is the place where two seasoned, Black non-profit professionals spill the tea on what really goes on behind closed doors in the nonprofit industry and how it impacts Black leaders and leaders of color. We’ll share our personal experience, industry trends and tools and strategies for navigating the world of non-profit leadership as Black professionals.
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Sunday Sep 10, 2023
What Are The Different Needs of Black Professionals in Nonprofits?
Sunday Sep 10, 2023
Sunday Sep 10, 2023
Episode Description
Episode 3 of the "Not 4 Prophet Podcast" delves into the different needs of Black professionals working in the nonprofit sector. Join hosts Trenia Parham and David DeVaughn as they share their experiences as seasoned professionals in the industry. They discuss the challenges and behind-the-scenes realities faced by Black leaders and professionals in the nonprofit world.
Trenia and David reflect on their own journeys, starting from the early stages of their careers, where they sought employment for a paycheck and a chance to utilize their skills. As they moved up the ranks, they encountered different needs, such as seeking support and recognition for their work and decisions as leaders. They also share their struggles with bad bosses and lack of fair compensation, leading to burnout and frustration.
Throughout the episode, the hosts emphasize the importance of recognizing the toxicity present in many nonprofit organizations, which may hinder Black leaders from making meaningful impacts. They encourage Black professionals to be honest with themselves and ask the hard questions about their role and purpose within these organizations.
As the conversation evolves, Trenia and David highlight the current state of Black leaders in nonprofits, particularly in the midst of the ongoing pandemic. They acknowledge that many leaders are realizing the unsustainability of their situations and the need for change. However, they also address the challenge of finding a third path—a way to be impactful and make a difference while still taking care of oneself in a system that often does not prioritize the well-being of its staff.
The hosts emphasize the importance of considering one's own needs and well-being first before deciding on the best course of action. They acknowledge the difficulty of navigating these complexities and the potential blowback from pushing for change within the organization. However, they encourage Black leaders to remain aware of their unique skills and value, recognizing that they can bring positive change within their sphere of influence.
The episode concludes with the hosts urging Black leaders to be honest with themselves about their place within their current organizations and to explore other paths that may better align with their values and goals. They offer their support to those considering leaving the nonprofit sector or seeking alternative paths, emphasizing that it is essential to prioritize self-care and well-being throughout this process.
For more insights and discussions on navigating the nonprofit space as Black professionals, tune in to the "Not 4 Prophet Podcast" and gain valuable insights from seasoned industry experts.
In This Episode
04:55 What were we looking for in a nonprofit?
08:21 What was your expectations when you started your career?
15:19 The glass cliff effect.
19:56 The role of Black leaders in nonprofits.
23:14 How are you thinking about the way you show up?
25:39 How leaders can improve the conditions within their organizations.
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