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The Not 4 Prophets Podcast is the place where two seasoned, Black non-profit professionals spill the tea on what really goes on behind closed doors in the nonprofit industry and how it impacts Black leaders and leaders of color. We’ll share our personal experience, industry trends and tools and strategies for navigating the world of non-profit leadership as Black professionals.
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Monday Apr 28, 2025
If Not A 9-5 Or Entrepreneurship, Then What? Finding The Third Way
Monday Apr 28, 2025
Monday Apr 28, 2025
We know the cost of assimilating. We’ve felt the exhaustion of constant resistance. So what else is there?
In this episode, we explore “The Third Way”, a growing movement among Black leaders who are choosing imagination over burnout, dignity over martyrdom, and global vision over boxes that don’t fit. What does it mean to lead on your own terms?
Together, we dig into:
- The ideas, influences, and frameworks reshaping Black leadership, across borders and screens
- How abolitionist, expat, and decentralized movements are pushing us to dream differently
- The power of retreat, coaching, and community as tools for unlearning
- What it looks like to build something instead of always fixing something
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